with Luigi Manconi

"Until the whole of the 1970s," Luigi Manconi tells us, "the image of the gypsy evoked an idea of free life and an exotic universe. Two songs triumphed at the Sanremo festival: give me your gypsy hand and my heart is a gypsy. The disappearance of this positive image of the gypsy coincides with the establishment of the first nomad camps."

What is this nation of mine like? Fascinating as the fair where the gypsy woman reads the future? Or a sad ghetto like the nomadic camps confined outside the city?